Monday, January 16, 2017

Cliff Richard And Jimmy Savile...

Times They Were Together :


A Provisional Listing


Caveat

Details of Top of the Pops editions presented or co-presented by Jimmy Savile on which Cliff Richard appeared have been found through on-line sources. Where it is indicated that the appearance was a repeat, or that a promo film was shown, or just the record played, I have not included the TOTP edition in this listing. Cliff Richard might well not have been in the studio live for all of the editions that are included here, and some other information here is uncertain. Therefore, this is only a provisional listing. 


Unknown date

Cliff Richard's dressing room
[story told to Dan Davies by Jimmy Savile]


1959

Radio Luxembourg Studios


1960

Radio Luxembourg Studios


1964

May 3rd

New Musical Express Pollwinners' Concert, Empire Pool, Wembley


1965

September 14th

Savoy Hotel, London 


1966

May

NME Pollwinners' Concert


1967

May 7th

NME Pollwinners' Concert, Empire Pool, Wembley

September 7th

Top Of The Pops (BBC TV)

November 30th

Top Of The Pops

December 26th

Top Of The Pops


1968

March 14th

Top Of The Pops

April 11th

Top Of The Pops

May 12th

NME Pollwinners' Concert, Empire Pool, Wembley


1969

May 11th

NME Pollwinners' Concert, Empire Pool, Wembley

June 5th

Top Of The Pops


1970

March 12th

Top Of The Pops

September 24th

Top Of The Pops


1971

August 12th

Top Of The Pops

November 4th

Top Of The Pops


1973

March 8th

Top Of The Pops

October 4th

Top Of The Pops

November 22nd

Top Of The Pops


1975

July 12th

Jim'll Fix It (BBC TV)

July 19th

Jim'll Fix It


1976

November 25th

Top Of The Pops


1977

March 3rd

Top Of The Pops


1979

July 26th

Top Of The Pops

August 23rd

Top Of The Pops


1982

[specific date in year not known]

Silver Jubilee Luncheon for Phab

December 16th

Top Of The Pops


1985

December 23rd

Wogan (BBC TV)


1987

February 7th

Jim'll Fix It, Dominion Theatre, London


2002

June 4th

Celebrity float driven down Pall Mall (Queen's Golden Jubilee) 


Links


TV Pop Diaries


NME Awards History


Cliff Richard - Wikipedia


Jimmy Savile - Wikipedia


Cliff Richard : The Tangled Webb [1902-1997]


Cliff Richard : The Tangled Webb [1998-2016]


Cliff Richard set to sue the BBC after news report on Jimmy Savile review included a clip of the paedophile saying his name

Wednesday, January 04, 2017

Why Does BBC Radio 2 Employ Carmen Squire?

She has been working for Radio 2 for more than seven years (perhaps a lot longer). She has also done other work for the BBC, it is said.

Why might this be a problem? The answer is found within the character of the work that this individual does. Under most circumstances, it would be possible for a listener to Radio 2 who dislikes someone to avoid them.

Carmen Squire is, however, a character who does 'voiceovers', and has unaccountably been employed by this national radio station to contribute her voice to trailers, that are broadcast throughout the day, multiple times on all or most live shows. 

Searching on-line, I was not able to find a single positive comment on her voice, as it is employed by Radio 2.

There were, however, a fair amount of critical comments and I am re-posting most here, as I am in agreement with all of them, and would like to see some sort of explanation from BBC Radio 2 as to why this woman has been employed for so long to plaster her voice all over the station like ugly, crass graffiti on a quite attractive building..............


BBC Discussion


http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio2/html/NF14126215?thread=7184485

Annoying Radio 2 trailers


Roger Saunders on Thursday, 31st December 2009

Is it just me, or are you sick to death of that woman's voice about 6 times an hour giving out information on upcoming shows?

It is always the same monotone voice as if she were talking to 2 year olds and is so condescending it is driving me batty!!!

By all means keep us updated on forthcoming shows, but for goodness sakes give us someone who can speak like a normal human being.

Do we have to listen to someone who insists in raising the inflection in her voice every two or three words!!! aaaaaaaaagh!!


Message 2. Posted by st3ph3n on Thursday, 31st December 2009

Maybe she should vary it by saying .... "and it is through the .... SQUARE / ROUND etc. window"


Message 3. Posted by DaveHD on Sunday, 3rd January 2010

I'm sure she's a lovely lady and we might like her more if we could see what she looks like, but right now her voice is the one thing on Radio 2 that sends me to the "off" switch. Not only does her voice irritate but it's the frequency of the promos -seems like after every other record.


Posted by Subojac on Wednesday, 6th January 2010

Today we have Suzi Quatro and Bob Harris needing to be introduced by this woman. Why?

Then we have her doing the countdowns for Ken Bruce and so it goes on.

Change channel and she is on nearly every half-hour on BBC7.

Change to TV and she is trailing for BBC1. Change to ITV and she is selling food.

It has been suggested that she is called Carmen Squire. She may well be a "lovely lady" but there are thousands of "lovely ladies" that could do these jobs and give us all some much needed variety. Ofcom should regulate this over-exposure.



Posted by Subojac on Wednesday, 6th January 2010

And then it's Chris Evans's "first record" and the new look with Simon Mayo. Pity there is no 'new voice' for Radio 2.

So I turn over to Radio 6 and there she is again, drawling away in that same monotone. Is she trying to get a World Record, the first person to be on all channels at all time? Do the BBC Trail(ers) Department hate us listeners that much?



Posted by Peta on Wednesday, 6th January 2010

Ofcom are not regulators of 'I'm a bit bit bored by hearing the same voice over people' - that's not really an Ofcom thing.

It's pretty likely that this voice over worker gets the work by being good at what she does, and being available for work, bit like all of us in these recession hit days!

Here's a link to more info about what ofcom do and are responsible for...



Posted by Subojac on Wednesday, 6th January 2010

I think I am aware of what Ofcom does (not a lot really). You mistake wishful thinking (and humour?) for ignorance methinks!

Also I am not 'bored' of this voice, I am thoroughly sick and tired of hearing it 'everywhere'.

I like, for instance, Terry Wogan's voice but I wouldn't want, and I don't think most people would want, to hear him several times an hour on nearly all BBC and commercial channels. It doesn't matter how good something is, there is a limit to how often it should be served up and the BBC has surely exceeded this limit by a huge margin.



Twitter

Black International

3 Jun 2011

Wondering what's more irritating: Jamie Cullum or the Radio 2 Voiceover woman's way of saying it. JEEAYEMEEE CYULLLEMMM


http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1650864


12-04-2012, 08:16

EuanMebabe

Forum Member

Radio 2 voiceover woman

I cannot stand her voice, and she seems to be the only voiceover person R2 uses at the moment, so she's difficult to avoid. It's that three-note up and down tone she does in each promo. Not sure I've explained it properly, but it bugs the hell out of me.

12-04-2012, 09:53

Who is she? She's all over Radio 2 like a rash. Titanic promos - she's there. Richard Madeley promo - she's there. Promo for Dave Pearce - she's doing that too!

She's irritated me so much I've switched to 6Music.



12-04-2012, 16:58

Andy Walmsley

Forum Member

She's Carmen Squire...

Now I know R2 uses her voice for all imaging presumably to provide a consistent sound but it would make a change to hear someone else, or even a few more sung jingles.



12-04-2012, 17:29

EuanMebabe

Forum Member

Thanks Andy. That's the one. I've listened to some of her other work and she's equally annoying there too. I'd much prefer to hear Fran Godfrey, Sally Boazman or Fenella Fudge. As I said, it's that three-note "up-up-up-down" intonation that irritates.



28-12-2012, 19:53

Benaround  

Forum Member

I find it an interesting challenge to work out why I find this style of voiceover so irritating. A linguist could probably work it out easily, in the same way as they worked out the fashionable tendency, possibly first imported to this country via Australian soaps, to replace "you know?" at the end of a descriptive sentence by simply raising the voice at the last syllable of the sentence.

Here goes my explanation:


Imagine you were saying to a relative in complicity that someone neither of you liked was coming for Christmas dinner. You might say sarcastically: "And who else is coming? Your favourite sister" For emphasis you might use the up up up down inflection on the phrase "Fa vou rite Sister" in just the same way Carmen says "Ra di yo Two".

The up up up creates suspense, and the down resolves it.

Many voiceovers started this habit in the last 12 or so years. I think its origins could go back even several decades. There can be just two ups and a down, as in "Rad yo Two", or just one, even in just one word, for example the well heard mockney man who says in the commercial, as if he's exhaling a drag of a cigarette, or practising a yoga chant technique, "Wiiiiiickes"


It's the fake complicity between announcer and audience that is the thing here, not the sarcasm. The inflection is as if they were actually saying "And what is the name of the station I am going to say at the end of this sentence? You know........good old.....(Wait for it) Ra di yoh Twooooo"

It is a function of how this type of announcer uses suggestibility to relate to their audience. Almost subliminally, they are suggesting to the listener that the listener knows what the announcer is going to say, that their product is something reassuring, that they are on the same wavelength as the audience, (complicity). With Carmen Squires, and maybe others, this style has become formalised and exaggerated more recently and the syllables more robotically separated, the tones more stable and rigid.

There could possibly be another less scientific element which I have already hinted at, the raise and fall of the tone could simply work by implying the soothing tones one would use when hushing a child to sleep.

That's really the best I can do as an amateur. I would be interested to see a more precise or maybe a professional explanation.

Some people may not be irritated by this style, but I find it very patronising. I do agree that it's time for a change of voiceovers at Radio 2, but I dread to think what we might get in replacement.


Twitter

Kez

22 Aug 2012

..I've found ELC. AKA Carmen Squire. Feel free to print this and throw darts at it ;) xxx

13 Nov 2012

Still struggling to find a replacement morning radio station. I do like Radio 2...but that insipid Carmen Squire VO woman does my swede in.


cuzzinharry

22 Jul 2013

Are Radio 2 trailers, just, the noisiest, damn-awful ...ever? #vine@bbc R2


Kez
 
18 Dec 2013

...She's almost as bad as Carmen Squire. Almost.


http://biasedbbc.org/blog/2014/05/28/mid-week-open-thread-16/


JimS

May 29, 2014 at 8:58 pm

At least they have names you can put to their voices.

For some reason Carmen Squire has the ‘voice of choice’ across the whole of British media.

She’s the one that interrupts Radio 2 every 20 minutes to tell us in the same tones who the instantly recognisable voice in the trailer was.

Love them or loath them we can choose to listen or avoid the other regular presenters but not this one.

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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=943903&i=2620

People you'd never get tired of punching in the face...


marmitemania

Monday 8th September 2014

I will just leave this here and let you have a think about why I nominate her.

[photo of Carmen Squire]
 
 



http://biasedbbc.org/blog/2015/07/12/hallocks/


JimS

July 13, 2015 at 10:13 am

Please can they also save a few ‘k’ by getting rid of the dire ‘anonymous’, adds-nothing , Carmen Squire, the most-heard voice on British media.

(She’s the one that is given carte blanche to interrupt Radio 2 every 20 minutes with inane interjections like “Terry Wogan!”, “Jules Holland!”, “Paul McCartney!”, as if none of us would recognise any of them without her sexy (pass the bucket) help!)

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Twitter

12 Oct 2015

Bob Smith

Dear @BBCRadio2
Please stop using Carmen Squire's voice for your trails
Her v silly over modulated voice drives me (+others) nuts


16 Aug 2016

Jane Reynolds

@BBCRadio2 Finally found out that the woman who read EVERY SINGLE trail in the EXACT-SAME tone is Carmen Squire. Please, please replace her.

@BBCRadio2 You could get a machine to do a better/cheaper job than Carmen Squire. Every trail's identical; like a deaf, over-dramatic robot.